From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Tue Jan  1 00:24:18 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rod Stright)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:24:18 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Meeting
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Edgar,

 

Happy New Year one and all !!!!

 

Unfortunately I'm too far away to make the meeting but I think it's a great
idea.  At one time I put together a questionnaire to solicit input from
members regarding the class championship but it wasn't circulated.  I'm
attaching a copy as it may cover some of the points you wish to discuss.
We're a long way away so the chances of us making it down to a club
championship with Equinox are quite remote however it would be good to get
more of the class engaged.

 

This year 2013 is the Marblehead to Halifax Ocean Race which starts the July
7 so it pretty much takes us out of the picture.  If we had a half dozen
Frers 33 in that race it would be great :-) .

 

I have passed along my thoughts/comments and documentation earlier on the
handicap issue.

 

Regards

Rod Stright

Equinox

Halifax, NS

 

 


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color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
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>Unfortunately I'm too far away to make the meeting but I think it's a =
great idea.&nbsp; At one time I put together a questionnaire to solicit =
input from members regarding the class championship but it wasn't =
circulated.&nbsp; I'm attaching a copy as it may cover some of the =
points you wish to discuss.&nbsp; We're a long way away so the chances =
of us making it down to a club championship with Equinox are quite =
remote however it would be good to get more of the class =
engaged.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
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color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
>This year 2013 is the Marblehead to Halifax Ocean Race which starts the =
July 7 so it pretty much takes us out of the picture.&nbsp; If we had a =
half dozen Frers 33 in that race it would be great </span></font><font =
size=3D2 color=3D"#000099" face=3DWingdings><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#000099'>J</span></=
font><font size=3D2 color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
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color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
>I have passed along my thoughts/comments and documentation earlier on =
the handicap issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
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color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Wed Jan  2 16:13:58 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:13:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]New Frontier
Message-ID: <1357143238.64467.YahooMailClassic@web181404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

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Folks,
=A0
I am somewhat sad to=A0report that I am leaving the Frers 33 world.=A0 I ha=
ve purchased a J-109 and=A0have put Relentless up for sale.=A0 Relentless w=
as a great boat and over the 9 years that I had the boat it returned to me =
21 trophies and the first of those 21 was my first=A0trophy ever which was =
pretty special.=A0 Two others were 2nd place finishes in major regattas whi=
ch were both overwhelmingly special.=A0 Over the years Relentless has taugh=
t me a lot about sailing and together we have traveled over a 1000 miles on=
 the=A0Chesapeake Bay.=A0 I look forward to new sailing adventures on the l=
arger and faster J-109 that we will named Resolute.
=A0
If anyone is looking for a well maintained Frers 33 with really nice sails =
and a ton of electronics, Relentless is listed on Boat Trader.com at http:/=
/www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Frers-Frers-33-346671
=A0
Best wishes=A0to all the Frers 33 owners.=A0 She's a great boat, but for me=
 it=A0was time to move on.
=A0
Sincerely,
Frank Albert=A0=A0=A0
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<DIV>Folks,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am somewhat sad to&nbsp;report that I am leaving the <SPAN>Frers</SP=
AN> 33 world.&nbsp; I have purchased a J-109 and&nbsp;have put Relentless u=
p for sale.&nbsp; Relentless was a great boat and over the 9 years that I h=
ad the boat it returned to me 21 trophies and the first of those 21 was my =
first&nbsp;trophy ever which was pretty special.&nbsp; Two others were 2nd =
place finishes in major regattas which were both overwhelmingly special.&nb=
sp; Over the years Relentless has taught me a lot about sailing and togethe=
r we have traveled over a 1000 miles on the&nbsp;Chesapeake Bay.&nbsp; I lo=
ok forward to new sailing adventures on the larger and faster J-109 that we=
 will named Resolute.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If anyone is looking for a well maintained Frers 33 with really nice s=
ails and a ton of electronics, Relentless is listed on Boat Trader.com at <=
A href=3D"http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Frers-Frers-33-346671">htt=
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<DIV>Best wishes&nbsp;to all the Frers 33 owners.&nbsp; She's a great boat,=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sincerely,</DIV>
<DIV>Frank Albert&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></=
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Wed Jan  2 16:29:42 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Dave Nauber)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:29:42 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]New Frontier
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We will miss you Frank!=20
=20
Thanks for your support of the class over the years and for your input =
and participation on the Discussion List. Best of luck with Resolute and =
may Relentless find a good home.=20
=20
Please let me know when she sells so we may bring the new owner into the =
class.
=20
Regards,
=20
Dave
=20
From:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of FRANCIS ALBERT
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:14 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]New Frontier
=20

=20
      =20
  =20
            =20
    =20
                   Folks,
                  =20
                  I       am somewhat sad to report that I am leaving =
the Frers 33       world.  I have purchased a J-109 and have put =
Relentless up for       sale.  Relentless was a great boat and over the =
9 years that I had       the boat it returned to me 21 trophies and the =
first of those 21 was my       first trophy ever which was pretty =
special.  Two others were       2nd place finishes in major regattas =
which were both overwhelmingly       special.  Over the years Relentless =
has taught me a lot about       sailing and together we have traveled =
over a 1000 miles on       the Chesapeake Bay.  I look forward to new =
sailing adventures       on the larger and faster J-109 that we will =
named Resolute.
                  =20
                  If       anyone is looking for a well maintained Frers =
33 with really nice sails       and a ton of electronics, Relentless is =
listed on Boat Trader.com at =
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Frers-Frers-33-346671
                  =20
                  Best       wishes to all the Frers 33 owners.  She's a =
great boat, but for       me it was time to move on.
                  =20
                  Sincerely,
                  Frank       Albert  =20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>We will miss you Frank! <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your support of the class over the years and =
for your
input and participation on the Discussion List. Best of luck with =
Resolute and
may Relentless find a good home. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Please let me know when she sells so we may bring the new =
owner
into the class.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span
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frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>FRANCIS ALBERT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]New Frontier<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
      am somewhat sad to&nbsp;report that I am leaving the Frers 33
      world.&nbsp; I have purchased a J-109 and&nbsp;have put Relentless =
up for
      sale.&nbsp; Relentless was a great boat and over the 9 years that =
I had
      the boat it returned to me 21 trophies and the first of those 21 =
was my
      first&nbsp;trophy ever which was pretty special.&nbsp; Two others =
were
      2nd place finishes in major regattas which were both =
overwhelmingly
      special.&nbsp; Over the years Relentless has taught me a lot about
      sailing and together we have traveled over a 1000 miles on
      the&nbsp;Chesapeake Bay.&nbsp; I look forward to new sailing =
adventures
      on the larger and faster J-109 that we will named =
Resolute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
      </div>
      <div>
      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
      </div>
      <div>
      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If
      anyone is looking for a well maintained Frers 33 with really nice =
sails
      and a ton of electronics, Relentless is listed on Boat Trader.com =
at <a
      =
href=3D"http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Frers-Frers-33-346671">htt=
p://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Frers-Frers-33-346671</a><o:p></o:p><=
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      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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      wishes&nbsp;to all the Frers 33 owners.&nbsp; She's a great boat, =
but for
      me it&nbsp;was time to move on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sincerely,<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Frank
      Albert&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Wed Jan  2 20:56:38 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Dave Nauber)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:56:38 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <011301cde7b6$569aebb0$03d0c310$@ca>
References: <011301cde7b6$569aebb0$03d0c310$@ca>
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Thanks Rod,
=20
I have printed a copy and will bring it with me to the meeting.
=20
Happy New Year everyone!
=20
Regards,
=20
Dave
=20
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 7:24 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Meeting
=20
Edgar,
=20
Happy New Year one and all !!!!
=20
Unfortunately I'm too far away to make the meeting but I think it's a =
great idea.  At one time I put together a questionnaire to solicit input =
from members regarding the class championship but it wasn't circulated.  =
I'm attaching a copy as it may cover some of the points you wish to =
discuss.  We're a long way away so the chances of us making it down to a =
club championship with Equinox are quite remote however it would be good =
to get more of the class engaged.
=20
This year 2013 is the Marblehead to Halifax Ocean Race which starts the =
July 7 so it pretty much takes us out of the picture.  If we had a half =
dozen Frers 33 in that race it would be great J.
=20
I have passed along my thoughts/comments and documentation earlier on =
the handicap issue.
=20
Regards
Rod Stright
Equinox
Halifax, NS
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I have printed a copy =
and will bring
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span
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frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rod =
Stright<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 31, 2012 7:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Frers 33 Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
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color:#000099'>Edgar,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'>Happy New Year one and all !!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'>Unfortunately I'm too far away to make the meeting but I =
think
it's a great idea.&nbsp; At one time I put together a questionnaire to =
solicit
input from members regarding the class championship but it wasn't
circulated.&nbsp; I'm attaching a copy as it may cover some of the =
points you
wish to discuss.&nbsp; We're a long way away so the chances of us making =
it
down to a club championship with Equinox are quite remote however it =
would be
good to get more of the class engaged.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'>This year 2013 is the Marblehead to Halifax Ocean Race =
which
starts the July 7 so it pretty much takes us out of the picture.&nbsp; =
If we
had a half dozen Frers 33 in that race it would be great </span><span
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#000099'>J</span><s=
pan
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
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.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#000099'>I have passed along my thoughts/comments and =
documentation
earlier on the handicap issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Wed Jan  2 22:23:29 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Richard Saunders)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:23:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]Like New Doyle Asymmetrical spinnaker and ATN Sleeve/Douser
In-Reply-To: <005301cda550$6821ba60$38652f20$@ca>
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ing/downwind/apc/index.html=A0 Specifically built =0Afor the Frers 33 used =
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ZE=3D1>=0A<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Rod Stright=
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SPAN></B> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bo=
ld">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, October 8, 2012 8:29:07 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"F=
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Wed Jan  2 23:12:55 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rod Stright)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:12:55 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]New Frontier
Message-ID: <002f01cde93e$b2c76ab0$18564010$@ca>

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Congratulations Frank.  

 

Thanks for all your feedback over the years and you input in the development
of the tuning guide.  We'll miss your prompt feedback.  I'm sure you'll
enjoy the J 109 they are a great boat, quick and relatively easy to handle
in the racing and cruising mode.  If you decide to do Marblehead to Halifax
so year let me know, there are a few 109s here in Halifax and there are also
some interested in the Frers 33 so let me know when you decide on a price
and I'll put the word out.  I'd love to have a couple of more Frers 33 to
race against.

 

Regards

Rod Stright

Equinox 

 

 


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>Congratulations Frank.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
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color=3D"#000099" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#000099'=
>Thanks for all your feedback over the years and you input in the =
development of the tuning guide.&nbsp; We'll miss your prompt =
feedback.&nbsp; I'm sure you'll enjoy the J 109 they are a great boat, =
quick and relatively easy to handle in the racing and cruising =
mode.&nbsp; If you decide to do Marblehead to Halifax so year let me =
know, there are a few 109s here in Halifax and there are also some =
interested in the Frers 33 so let me know when you decide on a price and =
I'll put the word out.&nbsp; I'd love to have a couple of more Frers 33 =
to race against.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sat Jan  5 20:24:43 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Peter Evans)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:24:43 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 skippers meeting and party 3PM January 19
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sat Jan 12 16:18:32 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Michael Argyelan)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:18:32 -0600
Subject: [frers-list]Sails!
Message-ID: <CAKV=qiCPSvKiun2+RAAvmSo1rCRusqrEjKV=WBhU058DKgFNrg@mail.gmail.com>

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I noticed relentless is for sale.  I'm sad and happy for you at the same
time.  My little lady Mystify out here in Chicago needs a couple of sails
as some of them have to be retired.  Would you be interested in selling a
couple of your older racing sails?  I know they would have to be better
than the ones that just made it to the recycle pile!  You listed "(2008)North
3DL 155% Genoa (Mylar/Kevlar) (2006)UK Tape drive 140% Genoa Mylar/Kevlar
(2006) used sparinglyUK Tape drive 110% Genoa Mylar Kevlar tapes  BigUK
Airx spinnaker .6 ounce (Hot Pink/Silver/White) 2005North nylon Spinnaker
1.5 ounce (Yellow/Red/Blue) heavy air, age unknown, never used" and I was
wondering if you would have any interest in selling one or more of these.
 You can email me anytime.

Of course, if anyone else on the list has some older, lightly used "racing"
sails (we do mostly beer cans and port to port racing) I'd be interested.
 Thank you for your time and effort.  I hope this finds you well.

Best


Michael Argyelan
michael@gosailingchicago.com

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I noticed relentless is for sale. =A0I&#39;m sad and happy for you at the s=
ame time. =A0My little lady Mystify out here in Chicago needs a couple of s=
ails as some of them have to be retired. =A0Would you be interested in sell=
ing a couple of your older racing sails? =A0I know they would have to be be=
tter than the ones that just made it to the recycle pile! =A0You listed &qu=
ot;<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Arial,Genev=
a,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px">(2008)North 3DL 155=
% Genoa (Mylar/Kevlar) (2006)UK Tape drive 140% Genoa Mylar/Kevlar (2006) u=
sed sparinglyUK Tape drive 110% Genoa Mylar Kevlar tapes =A0BigUK Airx spin=
naker .6 ounce (Hot Pink/Silver/White) 2005North nylon Spinnaker 1.5 ounce =
(Yellow/Red/Blue) heavy air, age unknown, never used&quot; and I was wonder=
ing if you would have any interest in selling one or more of these. =A0You =
can email me anytime. =A0</span><div>
<font face=3D"Arial, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12px;line-height:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"Arial, =
Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:16=
px">Of course, if anyone else on the list has some older, lightly used &quo=
t;racing&quot; sails (we do mostly beer cans and port to port racing) I&#39=
;d be interested. =A0Thank you for your time and effort. =A0I hope this fin=
ds you well.</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12px;line-height:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"Ar=
ial, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-heig=
ht:16px">Best<br>
</span></font><div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Michael Argyelan<br><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:michael@gosailingchicago.com" target=3D"_blank">michael@gosaili=
ngchicago.com</a><br><br><br>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Tue Jan 22 14:58:29 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Michael Argyelan)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:58:29 -0600
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
Message-ID: <CAKV=qiC+L6ufpAEe9UjVM=VpyN4UZKd8qGTJD30BRQjnQAbmdA@mail.gmail.com>

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Ladies and Gents,

In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from the
"hounds" to the pin.  Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the the
uppers attach to the mast.  Is this supposed to be a pin to pin
measurement?  Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter
what I did to tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the
breeze got up above 12-15knts.  The previous owner used spartite and had
the rig in the center.  I plan on removing the spartite and placing the rig
in the aft most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I've read on
the site.

Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would be
greatly appreciated.

Gracias.

-- 
Michael

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Ladies and Gents,<div><br></div><div>In the tuning guide it says the forest=
ay should be 46&#39;1&quot; (ish) from the &quot;hounds&quot; to the pin. =
=A0Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the the uppers attach to the ma=
st. =A0Is this supposed to be a pin to pin measurement? =A0Just curious as =
I just bought mine last year and no matter what I did to tune the rig, I ha=
d some pretty serious weather helm once the breeze got up above 12-15knts. =
=A0The previous owner used spartite and had the rig in the center. =A0I pla=
n on removing the spartite and placing the rig in the aft most position at =
the step and 1&quot; off the partner as I&#39;ve read on the site. =A0</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measureme=
nts, etc would be greatly appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>Gracias.<br=
 clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Michael<br><br>
</div>

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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Tue Jan 22 15:10:46 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:10:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
In-Reply-To: <CAKV=qiC+L6ufpAEe9UjVM=VpyN4UZKd8qGTJD30BRQjnQAbmdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1358867446.14098.YahooMailClassic@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

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Michael,
=A0
The former owner of my Frers also=A0used a=A0spartite plug for the mast.=A0=
 When I got the boat the mast wasn't in it and I put the mast in and the sp=
artite=A0plug in with an aft rake.=A0 I didn't like the way the boat sailed=
 like that which was most (almost all) of the spartite in=A0front of the ma=
st.=A0=A0Eventually I switched it around to almost all of the spartite in t=
he rear of the mast with the mast nearly vertical.=A0 It remained that way =
for all the time I owned the boat and we were very=A0fast.
=A0
Cheers,
Frank Albert
=A0

--- On Tue, 1/22/13, Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com> wrote:


From: Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com>
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM


Ladies and Gents,=20


In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from the "ho=
unds" to the pin. =A0Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the the upper=
s attach to the mast. =A0Is this supposed to be a pin to pin measurement? =
=A0Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter what I did to=
 tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the breeze got u=
p above 12-15knts. =A0The previous owner used spartite and had the rig in t=
he center. =A0I plan on removing the spartite and placing the rig in the af=
t most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I've read on the site=
. =A0


Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would be gr=
eatly appreciated.


Gracias.


--=20
Michael


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top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Michael,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The former owner of my Frers also&nbsp;used a&nbsp;spartite plug for t=
he mast.&nbsp; When I got the boat the mast wasn't in it and I put the mast=
 in and the spartite&nbsp;plug in with an aft rake.&nbsp; I didn't like the=
 way the boat sailed like that which was most (almost all) of the spartite =
in&nbsp;front of the mast.&nbsp;&nbsp;Eventually I switched it around to al=
most all of the spartite in the rear of the mast with the mast nearly verti=
cal.&nbsp; It remained that way for all the time I owned the boat and we we=
re very&nbsp;fast.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Frank Albert</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/22/13, Michael <SPAN>Argyelan</SPAN> <I=
>&lt;michael@gosailingchicago.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Michael Argyelan &lt;michael@gosailingchica=
go.com&gt;<BR>Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements<BR>To: frers-list@=
lists.frers33.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv161043026>Ladies and Gents,=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from th=
e "hounds" to the pin. &nbsp;Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the t=
he uppers attach to the mast. &nbsp;Is this supposed to be a pin to pin mea=
surement? &nbsp;Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter =
what I did to tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the=
 breeze got up above 12-15knts. &nbsp;The previous owner used spartite and =
had the rig in the center. &nbsp;I plan on removing the spartite and placin=
g the rig in the aft most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I'=
ve read on the site. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would =
be greatly appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gracias.<BR clear=3Dall>
<DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR>Michael<BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></t=
able>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Tue Jan 22 22:24:43 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (David Nauber)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:24:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]Two ideas to improve your 2013 racing results
Message-ID: <1358893483.45739.YahooMailNeo@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sat Jan 26 21:01:34 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Robert Connell)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:01:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
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Mike, we have sailed Heartbeat and Black Hawk at 46' 1" in under 15 kts and=
 had good results, this is a pin to pin measurement, mast is 1" from the ba=
ck of the partner and about 3/4" from furthist aft setting. Every boat has =
it's slight differences. You need to find the right spot for your boat.

--- On Tue, 1/22/13, Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com> wrote:


From: Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com>
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM


Ladies and Gents,


In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from the "ho=
unds" to the pin. =A0Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the the upper=
s attach to the mast. =A0Is this supposed to be a pin to pin measurement? =
=A0Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter what I did to=
 tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the breeze got u=
p above 12-15knts. =A0The previous owner used spartite and had the rig in t=
he center. =A0I plan on removing the spartite and placing the rig in the af=
t most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I've read on the site=
. =A0


Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would be gr=
eatly appreciated.


Gracias.


--=20
Michael


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Mike, we have sailed Heartbeat and Black Hawk=
 at 46' 1" in under 15 kts and had good results, this is a pin to pin measu=
rement, mast is 1" from the back of the partner and about 3/4" from furthis=
t aft setting. Every boat has it's slight differences. You need to find the=
 right spot for your boat.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/22/13, Michael Argyelan =
<I>&lt;michael@gosailingchicago.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Michael Argyelan &lt;michael@gosailingchica=
go.com&gt;<BR>Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements<BR>To: frers-list@=
lists.frers33.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv466969215>Ladies and Gents,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from th=
e "hounds" to the pin. &nbsp;Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the t=
he uppers attach to the mast. &nbsp;Is this supposed to be a pin to pin mea=
surement? &nbsp;Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter =
what I did to tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the=
 breeze got up above 12-15knts. &nbsp;The previous owner used spartite and =
had the rig in the center. &nbsp;I plan on removing the spartite and placin=
g the rig in the aft most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I'=
ve read on the site. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would =
be greatly appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gracias.<BR clear=3Dall>
<DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR>Michael<BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></t=
able>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sun Jan 27 00:31:09 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:31:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
In-Reply-To: <1359234094.15719.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Mike,
=A0
I'm not sure I saw the part about a pretty serious weather helm in 12 to 15=
 knots.
=A0
Obviously if you have the main sheeted in tight with the traveler up that's=
 going to create a great deal of weather helm in those conditions.=A0 I wou=
ld usually go with my number 2, a 140% genoa, in 12 to 15 knots.=A0 With th=
at sail, and the main sail traveler down some along with the main as flat a=
s you can get it (cunningham on fairly tight, backstay at 3000 pounds and b=
ottom of the sail as flat as possible), we can sail very fast and while not=
 being overpowered or having too much weather helm.

--- On Sat, 1/26/13, Robert Connell <conn2523@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Robert Connell <conn2523@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 4:01 PM






Mike, we have sailed Heartbeat and Black Hawk at 46' 1" in under 15 kts and=
 had good results, this is a pin to pin measurement, mast is 1" from the ba=
ck of the partner and about 3/4" from furthist aft setting. Every boat has =
it's slight differences. You need to find the right spot for your boat.

--- On Tue, 1/22/13, Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com> wrote:


From: Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com>
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM


Ladies and Gents,=20


In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from the "ho=
unds" to the pin. =A0Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the the upper=
s attach to the mast. =A0Is this supposed to be a pin to pin measurement? =
=A0Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter what I did to=
 tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the breeze got u=
p above 12-15knts. =A0The previous owner used spartite and had the rig in t=
he center. =A0I plan on removing the spartite and placing the rig in the af=
t most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I've read on the site=
. =A0


Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would be gr=
eatly appreciated.


Gracias.


--=20
Michael


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Mike,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I'm not sure I saw the part about a pretty serious weather helm in 12 =
to 15 knots.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Obviously</SPAN> if you have the main sheeted in tight with the =
traveler up that's going to create a great deal of weather helm in those co=
nditions.&nbsp; I would usually go with my number 2, a 140% genoa, in 12 to=
 15 knots.&nbsp; With that sail, and the main sail traveler down some along=
 with the main as flat as you can get it (cunningham on fairly tight, backs=
tay at 3000 pounds and bottom of the sail as flat as possible), we can sail=
 very fast and while not being overpowered or having too much weather helm.=
<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/26/13, Robert <SPAN>Connell</SPAN> <I>&lt;conn2523=
@yahoo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Robert Connell &lt;conn2523@yahoo.com&gt;<B=
R>Subject: Re: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements<BR>To: frers-list@lists.fr=
ers33.com<BR>Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 4:01 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv613358923>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Mike, we have sailed Heartbeat and Black Hawk at 46' 1" in=
 under 15 kts and had good results, this is a pin to pin measurement, mast =
is 1" from the back of the partner and about 3/4" from furthist aft setting=
. Every boat has it's slight differences. You need to find the right spot f=
or your boat.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/22/13, Michael Argyelan <I>&lt;michae=
l@gosailingchicago.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Michael Argyelan &lt;michael@gosailingchica=
go.com&gt;<BR>Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements<BR>To: frers-list@=
lists.frers33.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 9:58 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv613358923>Ladies and Gents,=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In the tuning guide it says the forestay should be 46'1" (ish) from th=
e "hounds" to the pin. &nbsp;Traditionally, the hounds refer to where the t=
he uppers attach to the mast. &nbsp;Is this supposed to be a pin to pin mea=
surement? &nbsp;Just curious as I just bought mine last year and no matter =
what I did to tune the rig, I had some pretty serious weather helm once the=
 breeze got up above 12-15knts. &nbsp;The previous owner used spartite and =
had the rig in the center. &nbsp;I plan on removing the spartite and placin=
g the rig in the aft most position at the step and 1" off the partner as I'=
ve read on the site. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Any info on correcting weather helm, forestay measurements, etc would =
be greatly appreciated.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gracias.<BR clear=3Dall>
<DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR>Michael<BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></T=
BODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sun Jan 27 10:55:18 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rod Stright)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:55:18 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Rake
Message-ID: <000701cdfc7c$cbbd2f90$63378eb0$@ca>

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Hi Michael.  

 

I put the tuning guide together with input from several very experienced
Frers 33 owners and information from other sources and in this case Hall
Spars.  Since, when I got Equinox I had to get a new headstay I also got the
46 foot measurement from Hall Spars.

 

The Tuning Guide reads:

 

"3. Rig Tuning 

a) Headstay Length 

 

Prior to stepping the Mast: This length is measured from the center of the
pins at the hounds and the stem fitting and should equal 46' 00". Maximum
headstay length needs to be reduced in heavier air as much as 1 - 2" by
tightening the headstay thereby reducing rake and weather helm."

 

This is the original measurement and naturally adjustments are made on an
individual boat basis and the area and type of conditions you sail in.  As
the others have said the balance within the boat will also depend on a
number of other factors including, mast step location, mainsail draught
location, traveller adjustment (height), backstay tension, sail choice,
mainsail condition and wind/weather conditions.  

 

Regards

Rod Stright

Equinox

 

 

 

 


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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0000CC'=
>I put the tuning guide together with input from several very =
experienced Frers 33 owners and information from other sources and in =
this case Hall Spars.&nbsp; Since, when I got Equinox I had to get a new =
headstay I also got the 46 foot measurement from Hall =
Spars.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
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the pins at the hounds and the stem fitting and should equal 46&#8217; =
00&#8221;. Maximum headstay length needs to be reduced in heavier air as =
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>This is the original measurement and naturally adjustments are made on =
an individual boat basis and the area and type of conditions you sail =
in.&nbsp; As the others have said the balance within the boat will also =
depend on a number of other factors including, mast step location, =
mainsail draught location, traveller adjustment (height), backstay =
tension, sail choice, mainsail condition and wind/weather =
conditions.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com  Sun Jan 27 11:57:03 2013
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rod Stright)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:57:03 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Forestay Measurements
Message-ID: <000c01cdfc85$6c115ea0$44341be0$@ca>

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Hi Michael.  

 

I put the tuning guide together with input from several very experienced

Frers 33 owners and information from other sources and in this case Hall

Spars.  Since, when I got Equinox I had to get a new headstay I also got the

46 foot measurement from Hall Spars.

The Tuning Guide reads:

 

"3. Rig Tuning 

 

a) Headstay Length 

 

Prior to stepping the Mast: This length is measured from the center of the

pins at the hounds and the stem fitting and should equal 46' 00". Maximum

headstay length needs to be reduced in heavier air as much as 1 - 2" by

tightening the headstay thereby reducing rake and weather helm."

 

This is the original measurement and naturally adjustments are made on an

individual boat basis and the area and type of conditions you sail in.  As

the others have said the balance within the boat will also depend on a

number of other factors including, mast step location, mainsail draught

location, traveller adjustment (height), backstay tension, sail choice,

mainsail condition and wind/weather conditions.  

 

Regards

Rod Stright

Equinox

 

 

 


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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi Michael.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
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size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I put the tuning =
guide together with input from several very =
experienced<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Frers 33 owners and =
information from other sources and in this case =
Hall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Spars.&nbsp; Since, =
when I got Equinox I had to get a new headstay I also got =
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>46 foot measurement =
from Hall Spars.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The Tuning Guide =
reads:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&quot;3. Rig Tuning =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>a) Headstay Length =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Prior to stepping =
the Mast: This length is measured from the center of =
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>pins at the hounds =
and the stem fitting and should equal 46' 00&quot;. =
Maximum<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>headstay length =
needs to be reduced in heavier air as much as 1 - 2&quot; =
by<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>tightening the =
headstay thereby reducing rake and weather =
helm.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This is the =
original measurement and naturally adjustments are made on =
an<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>individual boat =
basis and the area and type of conditions you sail in.&nbsp; =
As<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>the others have =
said the balance within the boat will also depend on =
a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>number of other =
factors including, mast step location, mainsail =
draught<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>location, traveller =
adjustment (height), backstay tension, sail =
choice,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>mainsail condition =
and wind/weather conditions.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Rod =
Stright<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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